SE NTN '07 Regional Team Track Thread

[watchout]

Do you know of a team with several high quality (non-senior) runners? If so, share your knowledge with us! (Including class if possible)

Basically, we're looking at any team with at least 5 runners that have gone under 4:40/10:10 this year, or having run under these marks at their respective state meets this fall:

Virginia State: 17:50
North Carolina State: 17:20
Tennessee State: 17:35
Georgia State: 17:25
Florida State: 16:55
South Carolina State: 16:45


or, for a team that competed at NTN last year, runners that were under 18:20.


Example: (Sorry that this is an example of the MW)

Nequa Valley IL
Chris Derrick (Jr.) 14:22 IL State, 4:19.18 1600m, 9:03.?? 3200m
Jim Riddle (Jr.) 14:45 IL State, 4:28.?? 1600m, 9:42.?? 3200m
Mike Ruff (Jr.) 15:30 IL State
Danny Pawola (So.) 15:42 IL State, 9:17.?? 3200m
Brian Morenus (So.) 15:45 IL State, 10:04.?? 3200m
Kevin Grady (Jr.) 15:59 IL State
Connor Shields (So.)- 4:29.?? 1600m, 10:00.?? 3200m
Luke Verbus (Fr.)- 10:05.?? 3200m
Bryan Winek (So.)-10:09.?? 3200m
Aaron Beatie (Fr.)- 10:09.?? 3200m



As long as there are 5 under 4:40/10:10/(the XC requirement), please share!

Thanks in advance, and please keep us up to date!

[bogman]

I don’t think any teams in NC meet your criteria.

Chapel Hill would be the closest - their top four (Gilland, 9:14, Marshall, 4:27, Anderson 10:04 and Sutter 4:37) all meet your standards, but they need a fifth ***EDIT(Maybe Otis Reid, who's run 10:17 for 3200)***

Among other teams, I wouldn't count Enloe or Pinecrest out - they both have a history of developing their talent. Myers Park was last year's runner up, and have four very motivated juniors returning. East Forsyth is lead by Dylan Ferris, who went 1:51/4:16 in last year's track state finals as a sophomore, and is posting similar times this season, but has yet to have a breakout xc season.

Here are the returners from the top teams and their times from last year’s 4A state meet that MIGHT rise to the occasion with some hard work and a little luck:

Chapel Hill
Gilland, Taylor SO 15:38.89
Marshall, Jack JR 16:36.02
Anderson, Peter JR 16:50.37
Sutter, Wes FR 17:48.58


East Forsyth
Ferris, Dylan JR 16:53.24
Crawford, Patrick FR 16:57.00
Castro, Gus JR 17:17.36
Kilar, Anthony SO 17:48.95
Teeter, John SO 19:02.62
Uzenski, Nate JR 19:09.19

Enloe
Graw, Nick FR 16:02.63
Carter, Nick SO 16:52.41
Kittow, John SO 17:13.78
Kijewski, Tim JR 17:36.94
Capps, Chris SO 17:42.36

Pincecrest
Baggett, Brett JR 16:50.73
Moon, Mark SO 17:08.33
Gehrung, Billy SO 17:39.61
Pittard, Bryce JR 17:52.40
Whitcar, Scott SO 18:29.86

Green Hope
Roshdy, Zak SO 17:06.55
Black, Douglas SO 17:09.92
Hrnicek, Adam JR 17:34.80
Pahle, Brian JR 17:39.27
Hoogenboom, Daniel JR 18:37.52

Myers Park
Zizzi, Andrew JR 17:09.52
Deloache, Thomas JR 17:16.35
Mayberry, Chatham JR 17:23.40
Ferree, Chase JR 17:54.78

Mooresville and Ashville both have good talent returning at the 3A level, and should probably also be included in this mix.

[watchout]

Virginia Teams (XC only, I don't have track info yet..)


Mountain View
Thomas Porter 10 Mountain View High 16:08.66 VA, 4:24.36 1600m, 9:18.90 3200m
Alex Brown 11 Mountain View High 17:26.89 VA, 9:54.57 3200m
Chris Brown 11 Mountain View High 17:29.27 VA, 9:56.10 3200m
Ryan Yingling 11 Mountain View High 17:37.36 VA
Stephen Henry 11 Mountain View High 17:45.85 VA
Daniel Porter 11 Mountain View High 4:30.61 1600m

Midlothian
7 Witt, Jason 11 Midlothian XC Club 16:51.3 NTN, 15:59.31 VA, 4:23.21 1600m, 9:15.40 3200m
70 Merritt, Mark 11 Midlothian XC Club 17:58.7 NTN, 16:36.33 VA, 4:25.61 1600m
74 Mellis, Jonathan 11 Midlothian XC Club 18:03.1 NTN, 9:47.41 3200m
86 Hammond, Michael 11 Midlothian XC Club 18:11.4 NTN, 17:13.71 VA, 4:20.30 1600m
Thomas Cole 11 Midlothian 17:06.81 VA, 9:53.82 3200m
Britt Hockenberry 10 4:34.52 1600m

Oakton
Joe LoRusso 11 16:25 VA, 4:19.11 1600m, 9:34.65 3200m
Scott Maxfield 11 4:28.95 1600m, 9:52.60 3200m
Neal Hendricks 10 17:21 VA, 4:34.52 1600m, 9:41.44 3200m
Brian Hendricks 10 16:54 VA, 4:34.23 1600m, 9:57.72 3200m
Chris Weil 10 4:30.08 1600m, 9:49.38 3200m

Jamestown
Andrew Colley SO Jamestown 16:34.77 VA, 4:29.77 1600m, 9:46.77 3200m
John Holt SO Jamestown 16:50.45 VA, 4:36.90 1600m, 9:56.94 3200m
Colin Mearns FR Jamestown 17:25.40 VA, 9:56.46 3200m
Russell Hornsby FR Jamestown 17:40.81 VA, 4:35.47 1600m, 9:30.91 3k
Graham Slickenmeyer FR Jamestown 10:04.41 3200m

'Watch List'
Brentsville
Ray Delgado 11 Brentsville High 17:09.93 VA, 4:36.26 1600m
Andrew Johnson 11 Brentsville High 17:17.75, 4:32.73 1600m, 9:52.56 3200m
Luke Watts 11 Brentsville High 17:31.99, 10:09.41 3200m
Grant Burress 10 Brentsville High 17:39.35


Western Albemarle
Kyle Satterwhite 10 16:43.47 VA State, 4:23.50 1600m, 9:33.46 3200m
Tyler Stutzman 10 16:49.71 VA State, 4:29.21 1600m, 9:36.55 3200m
James Howard-Smith 10 17:06.71 VA State, 4:32.39 1600m, 10:04.94 3200m
Henry Loehr 10 10:09.82 3200m

[watchout]

Tennessee Teams


Oak Ridge
Chris Cole (Jr.) 16:31.42 TN XC, 4:23.97 1600m
Maclean O'Donnell (Jr.) 16:41.50 TN XC, 4:23.00 1600m, 9:32.56 3200m
Phil Riemer (Jr.) 16:42.32 TN XC
Emerson Peacock (Jr.) 17:22.48 TN XC, 4:38.48 1600m
Ethan Mcgroom (Jr.) 17:34.84

Baylor
Billy Matthews (So.) 15:48.18 AL XC, 4:21.?? 1600m
Waldo DuPlessis (Jr.) 17:00.59 TN XC, 4:31.23 1600m, 9:46.50 3200m
Justin Sawyers (Jr.) 17:09.50 TN XC
Mike Meadows (So.) 17:15.01 TN XC, 9:57.79 3200m
Colton Popp (Jr.) 17:43.90 TN XC, 10:05.?? 3200m

[ORXCCoach]

If I had the time, I would find times from Baylor (Chattanooga), who imported Alabama's Bill Matthews (4:21/9:24 soph) to go with what was already a stellar team.

[boltoncct&f]

I did not think about that, but Baylor will be loaded next year. Bringing in a probable #1 no less. They were just one guy short last year.

[85viking]

Midlo is getting an 8th grader who has run 4:35 for 1600m. Should help fill in any gaps caused by graduation.

[ORXCCoach]

I did not think about that, but Baylor will be loaded next year. Bringing in a probable #1 no less. They were just one guy short last year.


Yeah, they will be good. Matthews was out there cheering the guys on in the DMR the other day, too, so he looks like a team player. It appears to me as if OR and Baylor should be tough.

It also looks as if our freshman (Sharpe) who didn't run varsity at the end of the season is on the verge of a breakthrough, having gone 4:45/10:12 this week. He'll add some happiness at #5-7.

[ORXCCoach]

Returners from DII TSSAA XC 2006:

10 duPlessis, Waldo 11 Baylor 17:00.59 10
14 Sawyers, Justin 11 Baylor 17:09.50 14
17 Meadows, Mike 10 Baylor 17:15.01 17
28 Mace, Jonathan 11 Evangelical Chri 17:35.04 28
35 Townsend, Skylar 10 Baylor 17:43.90 35

Add Matthews in at #1 and probably 16:15, and you have a party.

[watchout]

Returners from DII TSSAA XC 2006:

10 duPlessis, Waldo 11 Baylor 17:00.59 10
14 Sawyers, Justin 11 Baylor 17:09.50 14
17 Meadows, Mike 10 Baylor 17:15.01 17
28 Mace, Jonathan 11 Evangelical Chri 17:35.04 28
35 Townsend, Skylar 10 Baylor 17:43.90 35

Add Matthews in at #1 and probably 16:15, and you have a party.

did Mace transfer to Baylor as well?

[watchout]

Midlo is getting an 8th grader who has run 4:35 for 1600m. Should help fill in any gaps caused by graduation.

more depth for the wealthy! Good for them, if he excels in XC on that type of level, he could be enough to boost them into the top 10 nationally.

[ORXCCoach]

Smart-aleck!:D

Ooops.

[milestat]

The four from Virginia that look the strongest returning right now are Midlothian, Western Albemarle, Oakton, and Jamestown. With Mountain View as probably the next in line after those 4. Figured I'd help you watchout with the track bests so far of the top returnees on those team.

Midlothian - Best 4, most experienced

Midlo is not only getting the sub 4:40 8th grader but another 8th grader that apparently broke Witt's middle school records in the 2 mile and I think XC as well. Best proven top 4 among the VA teams. Who will be the 5th remains the question.

Jason Witt (Sr) 4:23 1600, 9:15 3200, 15:59 5K
Mark Merritt (Sr) 4:25 1600, 16:33 VA State
Thomas Cole (Sr) 10:13 3200, 17:06 VA State
Michael Hammond (Sr) 4:27 1600, 17:13 VA State
Britt Hockenberry (Jr) 4:38 1600

Western Albemarle - Best 1-2-3

Best front three with the 3 of the top 5 finishers in the sophomore race at FLS (with all under 16 minutes). Still a question if they can get solid fourth and fifth men. Have a couple guys lingering in the mid 17's coming back but that does not get the job done.

Kyle Satterwhite (Jr) 4:33 1600, 9:33 3200, 16:43 VA State, 15:49 FLS
Tyler Stutzman (Jr) 4:29 1600, 9:36 3200, 16:49 VA State, 15:54 FLS
James Howard-Smith (Jr) 4:32 1600, 17:06 VA State, 15:54 FLS
Henry Loehr (Jr) 10:09 3200, 17:08 FLS

Oakton - Best depth, distance track times

Deepest team returning from VA, but their problem last year was not enough firepower up front. Lorusso is definitely a solid #1. They have the best track times out of the VA squads with four returning sub 10 guys with a few more possibly going under this spring. However, we have found that track times don't always translate into XC results and vice versa. Midlothian just got their 3rd guy under 10 minutes this past weekend and Oakton already has 6 yet Midlo manhandled them at the state xc meet.

Joe LoRusso (Sr) 4:25 1600, 9:34 3200, 16:25 VA State
Scott Maxfield (Sr) 4:31 1600, 9:52 3200
Brian Hendricks (Jr) 4:38 1600, 9:57 3200, 16:54 VA State
Chris Weil (Jr) 4:36 1600, 9:49 3200
Neal Hendricks (Jr) 4:37 1600, 10:10 3200, 17:21 VA State
Andrew McCullen (So) 4:42 1600, 10:11 3200

Jamestown - Very young, lots of upside

Lots of upside with this team since all their top returnees are currently either freshmen or sophomore. Almost looks like a middle school team with the size of some of their kids.

Andrew Colley (Jr) 4:33 1600, 9:46 3200, 16:34 VA State
John Holt (Jr) 4:36 1600, 9:56 3200, 16:50 VA State
Colin Mearns (So) 9:56 3200, 17:25 VA State
Russell Hornsby (So) 4:35 1600, 9:30 3K
Graham Slickenmeyer (So) 10:29 3200

Mountain View - Solid group

Nice to have a returning FL finalist to lead you with Porter, but they need at least 2 guys to emerge as go getters instead of run with the rest of the pack kind of guys.

Thomas Porter (Jr) 4:23 1600, 9:18 3200, 16:08 VA State, 15:13 FLS
Alex Brown (Sr) 9:54 3200, 17:26 VA State, 17:18 FLS
Chris Brown (Sr) 9:56 3200, 17:29 VA State, 17:22 FLS
Stephen Henry (Sr) 10:12 3200
Daniel Porter (Sr) 4:31 1600, 10:12 3200
Ryan Yingling (Sr) 17:06 FLS

I'll dive into the other states here later.

[ORXCCoach]

Jamestown looks (to me) to be the most likely to really improve, because of the relative youth of the team. They have solid track times as well as a solid season of xc under their belts from last year.

Just looking at the above, it appears to me as if Oakton should be tough because of their 2-5 scorers.

[BillATC]

From GA - three teams look to be returning the strongest squads (sorry don't have many track times on either Brookwood or Parkview (think a few of their XC kids play soccer):

Parkview returns 6 of 7

- 1 Pinson: 16:23 (GA state course), 4:31
- 2 Lynch: 16:42 (GA state course), 1:52.3
- 3. Detweiler: 16:53 (GA state course)
- 4. Richardson: 17:05 (GA state course) 4:44
- 5. Van Tonder: 17:13 (GA state course)
- 6 . N. Williams (frosh): 17:23 (GA state course)

Brookwood returns 5 of 7

- 1 Sexton - 16:50 (GA state course) 4:49?
- 2 N. Patton - 16:54 (GA state course) 9:52
- 3 O. Gardeneo - 17:08 (GA state course) 4:39
- 4 D Kalmbach - 17:20 (GA state course) 4:35, 9:56
- 5 Ryan - 17:27(GA state course)?

Walton returns 5 of 7
- 1 M. Vigilotti - 16:32 (GA state course) 4:30, 9:52
- 2 T. Pilliod - 16:54 (GA state course) 4:34, 9:52
- 3. W.Bryfczynski - 17:02 (Ga state course), 4:49, 10:14
- 4 D. Heller - 17:14 -fell before finish (Ga state course), 1:58, 4:30, 10:04 (ran once in duel meet)
- 5 N. Gordon - 17:21 (Ga state course), 2:02, 4:36
- 6 J. Schmid (JV) - 16:47XC, 1:57, 4:28 - has not run 2 mile

- also returns 9 of 10 other JV from XC

[watchout]

From GA - three teams look to be returning the strongest squads (sorry don't have many track times on either Brookwood or Parkview (think a few of their XC kids play soccer):

Parkview returns 6 of 7

- 1 Pinson: 16:23 (GA state course), 4:31
- 2 Lynch: 16:42 (GA state course), 1:52.3
- 3. Detweiler: 16:53 (GA state course)
- 4. Richardson: 17:05 (GA state course) 4:44
- 5. Van Tonder: 17:13 (GA state course)
- 6 . N. Williams (frosh): 17:23 (GA state course)

Brookwood returns 5 of 7

- 1 Sexton - 16:50 (GA state course) 4:49?
- 2 N. Patton - 16:54 (GA state course) 9:52
- 3 O. Gardeneo - 17:08 (GA state course) 4:39
- 4 D Kalmbach - 17:20 (GA state course) 4:35, 9:56
- 5 Ryan - 17:27(GA state course)?

Walton returns 5 of 7
- 1 M. Vigilotti - 16:32 (GA state course) 4:30, 9:52
- 2 T. Pilliod - 16:54 (GA state course) 4:34, 9:52
- 3. W.Bryfczynski - 17:02 (Ga state course), 4:49, 10:14
- 4 D. Heller - 17:14 -fell before finish (Ga state course), 1:58, 4:30, 10:04 (ran once in duel meet)
- 5 N. Gordon - 17:21 (Ga state course), 2:02, 4:36
- 6 J. Schmid (JV) - 16:47XC, 1:57, 4:28 - has not run 2 mile

- also returns 9 of 10 other JV from XC



AWESOME! Thanks!

[watchout]

Georgia Teams

Parkview
Josh Pinson (Jr.): 16:21.75 GA XC, 4:31.73 1600m, 9:51.0 3200m
Marcelis Lynch (Jr.): 16:41.77 GA XC
Brian Detweiler (So.): 16:53.07 GA XC
Brett Richardson (Jr.): 17:05.20 GA XC
JJ Van Tonder (Jr.): 17:13.24 GA XC
Nick Williams (Fr.): 17:23.74 GA XC

Walton
Mark Vigilotti - 16:32.58 GA XC, 4:30.31 1600m, 9:52.21 3200m
Thomas Pilliod - 16:53.97 GA XC, 4:34.32 1600m, 9:52.59 3200m
Will Bryfczynski - 17:02.67 GA XC
Daniel Heller - 17:14.97 GA XC, 4:31.78 1600m, 10:04 3200m
Nathan Gordon - 17:21.12 GA XC, 4:36.?? 1600m
- 6 J. Schmid (JV) - 4:28.36 1600m

Teams to watch:

Brookwood
Michael Sexton - 16:50.10 GA XC
Nick Patton - 16:54.47 GA XC, 9:52.?? 3200m
Oscar Gardeneo - 17:08.39 GA XC, 4:39.?? 1600m
Doug Kalmbach - 17:20.69 GA XC, 4:35.?? 1600m, 9:56.?? 3200m

[Conigs]

Returners from DII TSSAA XC 2006:

10 duPlessis, Waldo 11 Baylor 17:00.59 10
14 Sawyers, Justin 11 Baylor 17:09.50 14
17 Meadows, Mike 10 Baylor 17:15.01 17
28 Mace, Jonathan 11 Evangelical Chri 17:35.04 28
35 Townsend, Skylar 10 Baylor 17:43.90 35

Add Matthews in at #1 and probably 16:15, and you have a party.

Might should mention that a guy not on the list, Colton Popp, went 10:03 last night. He's a baseball player who runs the occasional track meet.

[watchout]

Might should mention that a guy not on the list, Colton Popp, went 10:03 last night. He's a baseball player who runs the occasional track meet.

what grade is he in?

[ORXCCoach]

Tennessee Teams


Oak Ridge
Chris Cole (Jr.) 16:31.42 TN XC, 4:29 1600m
Maclean O'Donnell (Jr.) 16:41.50 TN XC, 4:27 1600m, 9:52 3200m
Phil Riemer (Jr.) 16:42.32 TN XC
Emerson Peacock (Jr.) 17:22.48 TN XC, 4:38 1600m
Ethan Mcgroom (Jr.) 17:34.84

FYI:


This morning:

O'Donnell 4:23.00 FAT 1600
Cole 1:59.27 FAT 800
Sharpe (9th, jv) 10:15.81 FAT 3200

http://www.metro8track.com/metro8.htm

[watchout]

FYI:


This morning:

O'Donnell 4:23.00 FAT 1600
Cole 1:59.27 FAT 800
Sharpe (9th, jv) 10:15.81 FAT 3200

http://www.metro8track.com/metro8.htm

Updated, thanks

[Conigs]

what grade is he in?

He'll be a senior next fall.

Edit: my bad it was 10:05.

[mbio]

I do have to say my Baylor boys have ramped it up this Spring, with all 5 guys under 10 minutes for the deuce. Matthews just ran a solo 4:21 last night. He started with a 67 first lap and then blew apart the field. Last year I felt we had little speed but now four of them are in the mid 4:30s or faster.

[watchout]

I do have to say my Baylor boys have ramped it up this Spring, with all 5 guys under 10 minutes for the deuce. Matthews just ran a solo 4:21 last night. He started with a 67 first lap and then blew apart the field. Last year I felt we had little speed but now four of them are in the mid 4:30s or faster.

Thanks coach, I should have already added you guys to the Tennessee list, but if I haven't sorry I've been busy

[ORXCCoach]

Van's kids' grandmas timed every one of those 3200s, so you'd better add 15 seconds to each. :D

Just kidding.

You do have Baylor in the national list, and they definitely deserve to be there.

[mxcrunner4]

Mooresville, NC has these returning

Patrick Campbell-'08-16:36 @ state-16:14 P.R. has ran 4:24 1600 and 9:42 3200 this track season
Joseph Newman-'09-16:50 @ state-16:11 P.R.
Graham Sledge-'09-17:02 @ state-16:53 P.R.
Nathan Craig-'08-17:16 @ state-17:01 P.R.
Josh Cox-'10-17:32 @ state-16:50 P.R.

[85viking]

Current 11th graders:
Lorosso 4:19/9:34
Maxfield 4:28/9:52
Current 10th graders:
Hendrix #1 4:34/9:41
Hendrix #2 4:34/9:57
Chris Weil 4:30/9:49
Current frosh
McCullen 4:40/10:11
Fulgrum 10:32/17:14 bull run/17:28 Maymont

[ORXCCoach]

Tennessee Teams


Oak Ridge
Chris Cole (Jr.) 16:31.42 TN XC, 4:29 1600m
Maclean O'Donnell (Jr.) 16:41.50 TN XC, 4:23.00 1600m, 9:52 3200m
Phil Riemer (Jr.) 16:42.32 TN XC
Emerson Peacock (Jr.) 17:22.48 TN XC, 4:38.48 1600m
Ethan Mcgroom (Jr.) 17:34.84


Cole: 4:23.97/1:59.27
O'Donnell: 4:23.00/9:32.52
Peacock: 1:59/4:38
Riemer: Didn't run track
McGroom: 2:10/4:50

Sharpe (#8 last year): 4:44/10:12

Riemer was a 4:28-type of runner, but now he's a little fat. Looks like a good summer for him...
O'Lear (#7 at State) played baseball.
We have 4 more under 5:00.

[watchout]

Current 11th graders:
Lorosso 4:19/9:34
Maxfield 4:28/9:52
Current 10th graders:
Hendrix #1 4:34/9:41
Hendrix #2 4:34/9:57
Chris Weil 4:30/9:49
Current frosh
McCullen 4:40/10:11
Fulgrum 10:32/17:14 bull run/17:28 Maymont

I'm guessing Hendrix#1 is Neal and #2 is Brian?

EDIT: Nevermind. Got it now.

[watchout]

I do have to say my Baylor boys have ramped it up this Spring, with all 5 guys under 10 minutes for the deuce. Matthews just ran a solo 4:21 last night. He started with a 67 first lap and then blew apart the field. Last year I felt we had little speed but now four of them are in the mid 4:30s or faster.

Updated the Tennessee post. Any more info on your guys' PR's?

[cougarfan1]

Glad to see somethings never change... what's your criteria for runners at the Maryland State Championships? Maryland is still in the SE NTN region right? Last year Quince Orchard HS finished 4th in the SE NTN rankings - they were undefeated last year. They should be strong in the fall as they return the bulk of the team.

[85viking]

Midlo:
Cole has lowered his 3200m to 9:53
Hammond lowered his 1600m to 4:17
Hockenberry lowered his 1600m to 4:34
plus the two incoming frosh and Witt and Merritt back healthy looks pretty good.

Oakton:
McCullen lowered his 3200m to 9:57

Jefferson:
Landry 4:21/9:23
Heflin 4:29/9:44
Bernstein 4:35/9:45
Gates 4:32
Galvin 4:35
plus 10:20,21,23

[Machine]

Would Parkview be top southeast team that's returning? I'm not from the Southeast or anything and never really followed it until recently and I'm very curious. Thanks. Also I didn't read most of the thread so sorry if it was mentioned earlier.

[watchout]

Would Parkview be top southeast team that's returning? I'm not from the Southeast or anything and never really followed it until recently and I'm very curious. Thanks. Also I didn't read most of the thread so sorry if it was mentioned earlier.

Right now, my current order for them (just going by 5-man averages)

1. Midlothian VA
2. Oakton VA
3. Mountain View VA
4. Thomas Jefferson VA
5. Walton GA
6. Jamestown VA
7. Parkview GA
8. Oak Ridge TN
9. Baylor TN
10. Western Albemarle VA

not sure where Chapel Hill NC will fit in, I don't have them included yet. And that's with a realistic guess as to where Western Albemarle's #5 would be.

Here's another fun look:

Ranking of the #5 guys
1. Oakton VA
2. Midlothian VA
3. Walton GA
4. Mountain View VA
5. Thomas Jefferson VA
6. Parkview GA
7. Jamestown VA
8. Baylor TN
9. Oak Ridge VA
10. Western Albemarle VA

[alaska55]

Hey Watchout you arn't trying to piss off Orccoach are you? Last year all he did was B**** about all the Va team rank in the top 10.

[watchout]

Hey Watchout you arn't trying to piss off Orccoach are you? Last year all he did was B**** about all the Va team rank in the top 10.

nope, I think he's seen enough of what I do to understand that I'm not forming any sort of VA bias... the track times are all on that first page, it'd be hard to refute.

Just like he knows that this year there is a regional meet to determine who goes, so he'll have his chance to show just how good the Tennessee teams can be this year.

[ORXCCoach]

Hey Watchout, I guess you used to visit relatives in VA and formed a little bias towards them, right? I mean, holy cow, how can you have 5 VA teams in your top 10 already? And it's only May! By August there'll be 9 of them...

;)

[alaska55]

I predict there will be 11.

[ORXCCoach]

Ha--that's probably true!

Sense of humor intact...

[kwcoach]

I look for Oak Ridge to be the second best team in the Knoxville area... if Knoxville West has several transfers this summer.

[alaska55]

Sadly i also predict some Virginia schools won't let their teams travel that much. I know of one that is on a short leash this spring. They didn't go to the Penn relays for the first time in years.

[ORXCCoach]

Is that by their choice, or is the school limiting time away from school? I know that's an issue here. Of my xc and track kids, many have missed 6-7 days of school this year just for competition/travel. No one likes that--except for the kids!

[alaska55]

Its the schools of course. Adding the the regional meet is really gonna make it tough for some schools.

[ORXCCoach]

Because the Regional comes at the tail end of our new TSSAA-mandated 3-week Dead Period following our state meet, our guys will hook up with the Knoxville TC and will be coached by someone else on meet day. Our school will have nothing at all to do with it, meaning that they won't have the chance not to sign onto the meet.

The good news is that our school is very supportive of opportunities like this, both in athletics and academics. I wonder sometimes about schools and associations that put a lockdown on kids having the chance to do neat things--like Penn Relays, or NTN, or Siemens-Westinghouse Competition, or TSA, or band contests, or whatever.

[boltoncct&f]

Because the Regional comes at the tail end of our new TSSAA-mandated 3-week Dead Period following our state meet, our guys will hook up with the Knoxville TC and will be coached by someone else on meet day. Our school will have nothing at all to do with it, meaning that they won't have the chance not to sign onto the meet.

The good news is that our school is very supportive of opportunities like this, both in athletics and academics. I wonder sometimes about schools and associations that put a lockdown on kids having the chance to do neat things--like Penn Relays, or NTN, or Siemens-Westinghouse Competition, or TSA, or band contests, or whatever.

Come on, you know it's track season by then. Time to "condition":p

[bogman]

Right now, my current order for them (just going by 5-man averages)

1. Midlothian VA
2. Oakton VA
3. Mountain View VA
4. Thomas Jefferson VA
5. Walton GA
6. Jamestown VA
7. Parkview GA
8. Oak Ridge TN
9. Baylor TN
10. Western Albemarle VA

not sure where Chapel Hill NC will fit in, I don't have them included yet. And that's with a realistic guess as to where Western Albemarle's #5 would be.

Here's another fun look:

Ranking of the #5 guys
1. Oakton VA
2. Midlothian VA
3. Walton GA
4. Mountain View VA
5. Thomas Jefferson VA
6. Parkview GA
7. Jamestown VA
8. Baylor TN
9. Oak Ridge VA
10. Western Albemarle VA

Times for Chapel Hill (with some updates):

Taylor Gilland 9:14
Jack Marshall 9:40 (regional meet)
Wes Sutter 4:37
Peter Anderson 9:58 (regional meet)
Otis Reid 10:17

[watchout]

Times for Chapel Hill (with some updates):

Taylor Gilland 9:14
Jack Marshall 9:40 (regional meet)
Wes Sutter 4:37
Peter Anderson 9:58 (regional meet)
Otis Reid 10:17

Going with the 5-man average again, they're SE#9. Almost exactly halfway between Oak Ridge and Baylor.

Also #9 for their fifth.

[BaylorXc]

actually i am baylor's fifth man
3200-9 57 with bilateral stress fractures in my spine

[watchout]

actually i am baylor's fifth man
3200-9 57 with bilateral stress fractures in my spine

Ok, then who am I missing from Baylor?

[Conigs]

Waldo du Plessis 4:31, 9:46
Skylar Townsend 4:35
Mike Meadows 9:57
Colton Popp 10:00


And Watchout, the one you forgot. Bill Matthews.
4:21 (frosh year, and again this year with just base training), 9:24 (frosh year), 15:33 indoors.

[watchout]

Waldo du Plessis 4:31, 9:46
Skylar Townsend 4:35
Mike Meadows 9:57
Colton Popp 10:00


And Watchout, the one you forgot. Bill Matthews.
4:21 (frosh year, and again this year with just base training), 9:24 (frosh year), 15:33 indoors.

I didn't forget Billy Matthews.

I had:
Billy Matthews
Waldo DuPlessis
Justin Sawyers
Mike Meadows
Colton Popp


so all I missed was Skyler Townsend's 4:35. His XC mark wasn't good enough.

[Conigs]

Oh ok. There we go then.

Wait, isn't Sawyers not at Baylor anymore?

Meadows, am I right?

[BaylorXc]

yea, sawyers is gone

[watchout]

Alright, thanks I'll fix that

[XCPelkey]

Quince Orchard - Maryland
returners

Neal Darmody - 15:48 5000, 9:26 3200, 4:26 1600, 2:00 800 (split)
David Laratta - 16:05 5000, 4:30 mile, 1:59 800
Josh Joson - 16:31 5000, 9:36 3200, 4:30 1600, 1:58 800 (split)
Mike Migdall - 16:47 5000, 4:52 1600 (i), didn't run outdoors
Artem Panasenkov - 16:45 5000, 10:22 3200, 4:47 1600
Ryan Priovolos - 16:48 5000, 4:46 1600
Kris Lasko - 17:21 5000, 10:35 3200, 4:52 1600

[ORXCCoach]

Cole: 4:23.97/1:59.27
O'Donnell: 4:23.00/9:32.52
Peacock: 1:59/4:38
Riemer: Didn't run track
McGroom: 2:10/4:50

Sharpe (#8 last year): 4:44/10:12

Riemer was a 4:28-type of runner, but now he's a little fat. Looks like a good summer for him...
O'Lear (#7 at State) played baseball.
We have 4 more under 5:00.

Here's where we ended up:

Cole: 16:31 TN State XC ; 4:23.97/1:57.01 (5th in AAA 1600, 7th in AAA 800 at State Track)
O'Donnell: 16:41 State XC; 4:23.00/9:32.52 (5th in AAA 3200 in 9:37 at State after a 2.5 week injury layoff)
Riemer: 16:42 State XC, no track
Peacock: 17:22 State XC; 4:38/1:57.92 (3rd in AAA 800 at State)
McGroom: 17:34 State XC, 2:10/4:50 in track
O'Lear: 17:57 State XC

Sharpe: No State XC; 2:09/4:44/10:12 in track as a freshman.

Have a great summer of training, everyone, and we'll start all this again in July.

[MudSloppa]

why dunn you likes de parkview mr. watchout. i go's there and we likes ta run in our orange suits pretteh fast ya herd

[watchout]

why dunn you likes de parkview mr. watchout. i go's there and we likes ta run in our orange suits pretteh fast ya herd

I herd dat befours, I have yer crew in der. aint nuthin against yas.

[Machine]

lollerskatez.

[MudSloppa]

haha, yeah good stuff. i dunn talks like that all the time, i just like to joke around..:)

[ORXCCoach]

why dunn you likes de parkview mr. watchout. i go's there and we likes ta run in our orange suits pretteh fast ya herd

I thank we'ull see Parkview on 9/22 at McCallie. Right?

[MudSloppa]

i think so, i cant remember if we are going to run that again or not